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What's Up for 2019?

anonymous user · started 2019-02-09 17:15 · updated 2019-12-17 00:15 · closed

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Dear fellow Audiotool friends!

After Audiotool Next launched last year, you might be wondering what is coming up this year. So here are some spoilers that will get you excited! The main goals of this year's development are performance, stability and usability. Here is how we'll accomplish them:

New Audio Engine

We recently started to develop a new audio engine based on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(programming_language) Rust] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebAssembly WebAssembly]. In a nutshell, Rust is a fairly new language that features secure memory management and compiles to fast assembly code. WebAssembly is one of the latest technologies for the web, boldly claiming to execute code almost at native speed inside your browser. Both should provide the experience of executing desktop software. The new audio engine will also be multi-threaded, making use of all CPU cores in your processor. That means that devices will be rendered in parallel, drastically reducing the overall computation time. This is by far the biggest improvement in Audiotool's history. It's not to be expected before summer, but it will absolutely be worth the wait because it will open the possibility to more advanced and amazing devices.

Redesigned User Interface

We are currently developing a completely new foundation of the user interface that will be much easier to extend with new features. Design-wise, it is much more compact and avoids wasting screen space by using smaller font sizes and spacing. It also looks incredibly good and will give you options to customise the colour scheme of the app according to your mood or light conditions. We expect this to be available by the end of February along with many other small enhancements.

Welcome Our New Developer

We can finally welcome a new talented developer in our team! His first goal will be to help develop the new audio engine. His real name remains a mystery though. Check out [https://www.audiotool.com/user/chordofdestruction/ his profile] and give him a warm welcome but don't you dare ask him for feature requests on his wall :)

Miscellaneous

In addition to these updates from the Audiotool basement, we also plan new contests and challenges later this year. Meanwhile consider
helping us to further improve Audiotool with a one dollar pledge at https://www.patreon.com/audiotool.

Comments (116)

2019-02-09 17:46 · 2019-02-09

le gasp

2019-02-09 20:21 · 2019-02-09

I'm actually really excited for the multithreading. This is a really big deal. This isn't 1990. Why am I running single core off my 500$ processor? Audiotool is going to run 10x, 12x more smoothly. As well, maybe this means with the extra compute power we can get more HQ sounding plugins like the reverb. I hope the new audio engine means we won't have to use audiotool booster, and that we can get really low latency midi out of the box.

2019-02-09 22:16 · 2019-02-09

glad to see the audiotool team making some much needed strides in audiotool's development

Known As I · reply
2019-02-09 23:10 · 2019-02-09

Browsers make the development of multi-threaded applications a tough task - they simply weren't built for computation intensive apps. We have to build upon lots of features that a fairly new, unstable or even work-in-progress. But it's definitely worth the effort!
I'm very optimistic that the current performance of the Booster can be brought into the Browser with some extra elbow-freedom. The Booster will remain at least as a plan B for times when the elders of Chrome/Firefox are having a bad day (again).

Infyuthsion · reply
2019-02-09 23:26 · 2019-02-09

Hell even a lot of PC apps don't support multithreading. A really big waste considering core clocks have not gone up significantly, just that we've been getting more of them. MY PC RIG DEMANDS MORE COMPUTATION.

virux · reply
2019-02-09 23:46 · 2019-02-09

My chromebook requires less lmao

Known As I · reply
2019-02-10 00:14 · 2019-02-10

@infyuthsion If it were on me I'd also occupy the graphics card's compute units for audio processing. I didn't hire my computer for idling ;)

sila · reply
2019-02-10 01:08 · 2019-02-10

@chordofdestruction GPU's are busy mining BTC. Please have mercy.

2019-02-10 19:36 · 2019-02-10

even lower end CPUs like my laptop's i3 are going to significantly benefit. My i3 has four simulated threads, so it might be able to run at most 3 threads, assuming that backrground stuff is on the fourth.

2019-02-10 20:28 · 2019-02-10

Really excited for the future of AT. Next (or whatever we should call it now) already runs at LEAST three times smoother than flash ever did, even with all the new features, which is something I honestly didn't expect to happen. Being that I mostly use AT on a chromebook, the capacity to make bigger projects is so useful and awesome. So many more great features and the knowledge that more are coming is just icing on the cake.

No matter what anyone's saying, you guys are doing an awesome job. AT is already an amazing piece of software, and knowing that it's only going to keep improving is super exciting. I see myself continuing to have fun using this thing far into the future. Thank you, guys.

2019-02-10 22:14 · 2019-02-10

Finally, Webassembly is here!

2019-02-11 15:11 · 2019-02-11

multi-threaded sounds like multiband

2019-02-13 16:13 · 2019-02-13

cant wait, super excited!

2019-02-13 16:35 · 2019-02-13

can you make the booster boost too?

2019-02-13 20:35 · 2019-02-13

OMF
Y E S

2019-02-14 06:53 · 2019-02-14

I <3 Audiotool

Known As I · reply
2019-02-15 01:23 · 2019-02-15

Sure! Will take a while until the launch because boosters are rocket science!

anonymous user
2019-02-15 15:52 · 2019-02-15

Audiotool is good music for Super Smash Brothers!

2019-02-17 04:40 · 2019-02-17

this'll be sick cant wait

2019-02-26 21:22 · 2019-02-26

oh my god that preview looks so slick!

2019-03-08 15:49 · 2019-03-08

Will you guys update the About page?

anonymous user
2019-03-20 17:12 · 2019-03-20

were dat user interface update

anonymous user · reply
2019-03-21 15:05 · 2019-03-21

what your saying is multithreading will reduce lag?

sila · reply
2019-03-21 15:20 · 2019-03-21

@yaboii It is pretty straight forward, isn't it?
Will my car with V8 in it run smoothly if just 3 cylinders will be working out of 8?

Known As I · reply
2019-03-21 20:59 · 2019-03-21

@borozo It's not that easy. Multi-threading is not a faster car but more of them.
This is indeed a tricky question. It's more like traveling with multiple cars: As long as you can pack all your stuff in one car you'll be faster than having to wait for all cars to arrive at the destination (which might have different average speeds due to traffic). But if you exceed the capacity of a single car you might be better off using more than one. This in turn depends on if you can saw the grand piano into halves and reconstruct it at the destination.
(this metaphor - as always - has other flaws ;)

SOLACE · reply
2019-03-28 16:24 · 2019-03-28

ATNext is the UI update

2019-03-28 16:48 · 2019-03-28

audiotool next released in october 2018 and the newest update was released in late february.

2019-03-28 16:50 · 2019-03-28

let me say now: the booster boosts but not nearly as strong as before.

SOLACE · reply
2019-03-28 16:53 · 2019-03-28

i agree. and before that, the UI was wildly different for 6+ years.

2019-05-06 04:58 · 2019-05-06

  

2019-05-11 11:14 · 2019-05-11

Cant wait for the audio engine update :D :D
means ill get to have even bigger drafts with barely any lag

2019-05-13 11:45 · 2019-05-13

ya and ill make whatever i want

2019-05-13 13:45 · 2019-05-13

Finally, audiotool is about to accend
maybe i can prove that its the same quality as ableton for those who don't believe it is

2019-05-13 13:56 · 2019-05-13

about the same... the only thing its missing for me is a vocoder. but the update said the new audio engine will give way to more advanced devices(righte?). i have reason to expect it around 2020-ish

Miriad · reply
2019-05-13 14:07 · 2019-05-13

tbh vocoders aren't really needed, anyways you can just make your own... its been done before lol

2019-05-13 14:17 · 2019-05-13

spill the beans

2019-05-13 14:20 · 2019-05-13

my point exactly

2019-05-13 14:21 · 2019-05-13

nobody doing all that

Known As I · reply
2019-05-13 18:04 · 2019-05-13

The new engine will give us more performance and better real-time behavior which enables lower latency. It also enables the creation of new devices. It doesn't bring them on it's own. That's a follow-up project.

2019-05-13 18:06 · 2019-05-13

yes i understand this

2019-05-13 18:07 · 2019-05-13

that is very generalized and i have no idea how it is relevant

2019-05-25 07:28 · 2019-05-25

haha this made me big happy

2019-08-06 00:54 · 2019-08-06

I just want a good piano sound

virux · reply
2019-08-06 01:04 · 2019-08-06

It’s a bit difficult to do that, idk why
Search the feature requests, you’ll find out

2019-08-07 23:44 · 2019-08-07

Hello to Developers of Audiotool, I believe your software would be more productive for it's users, if here was a Realtime "Oscilloscope", wouldn't it?
Since, if all of it's users could be able use an Oscilloscope to see the sound waves form. Users should produce music with small degree of difficulty.

Known As I · reply
2019-08-07 23:51 · 2019-08-07

This would be a candidate for https://www.audiotool.com/board/feature_requests
I'm not sure if such a request already exists. While being a cool feature, you should make clear how this could improve your workflow. E.g. by providing a use case as example.

naut · reply
2019-08-07 23:52 · 2019-08-07

I really like this idea, it would also be cool to have an x/y mode to experiment with creating interesting visuals with sound a la Jerobeam Fenderson.

Graydiation · reply
2019-08-08 00:27 · 2019-08-08

Example: I would speed up my fine toning and sound... I would use Oscilloscope to emulate using a reference of a real sound waveform form real instrument.(to save money)
but I real want to know about other people's opinion on this topic and not just about my own.
[Oscilloscope reference: Korg DSN-12]

anonymous user
2019-08-12 01:40 · 2019-08-12

Thanks for working hard! It's cool to see Audiotool getting better and better by the year. Maybe in the future we'll have realtime recording finally hehehe

2019-08-30 05:43 · 2019-08-30

My audiotool just received an update today. This new audio engine, has it released yet or is it still under production?

2019-08-30 15:20 · 2019-08-30

Afaik, not yet.

Known As I · reply
2019-08-31 00:44 · 2019-08-31

Still under production - we'll make a big announcement once we're done.

Infyuthsion · reply
2019-08-31 01:25 · 2019-08-31

Sweet. "Big"

Known As I · reply
2019-08-31 01:28 · 2019-08-31

There's still a lot to do and the first update won't change a lot. But it's necessary groundwork for more rocket science.

Infyuthsion · reply
2019-08-31 01:50 · 2019-08-31

Okay. But I like groundwork.

anonymous user
2019-08-31 03:49 · 2019-08-31

Anything for 20XX?

anonymous user
2019-08-31 03:50 · 2019-08-31

Hold on, so AT is not touchscreen?

2019-09-04 08:03 · 2019-09-04

Idk if it can be possible, but can we have someday probe inside of audiotool?, to record vocals and other things directly from the app without opening another window to do that

anonymous user
2019-09-05 19:52 · 2019-09-05

Can we get a wavetable synth and a way to get plugins like serum?

virux · reply
2019-09-05 19:57 · 2019-09-05

no.
there have been countless requests for VST support. Go look through the feature request board and read them.
For the wavetable synth, there have also been a few requests for one, and I support it, they're also in the feature request board.

anonymous user · reply
2019-09-05 23:58 · 2019-09-05

Vruh you think I got money

naut · reply
2019-09-06 00:15 · 2019-09-06

If everyone gave a dollar, just imagine the possibilities ;)

virux · reply
2019-09-06 00:26 · 2019-09-06

See if Patreon actually accepted my Visa card I could’ve given a few dollars...
Too late now, I destroyed it

Vulkron · reply
2019-09-09 22:02 · 2019-09-09

hey is there a way i can upgrade my dollar-a-month contribution?
like can i send u guys two, three, or even 5 dollars a month?

virux · reply
2019-09-09 22:05 · 2019-09-09

Good idea

Known As I · reply
2019-09-09 23:08 · 2019-09-09

@nick123456 Can't you just change your plan on Patreon?

anonymous user · reply
2019-09-09 23:44 · 2019-09-09

lmao

2019-09-24 02:53 · 2019-09-24

a thing you can make your own wave forms in... oooh aaah the possibilities.

2019-09-24 15:42 · 2019-09-24

This has been considered in the past. If the platform continues to get support, it might be developed at some point.

2019-10-01 10:26 · 2019-10-01

Omg its Q4, no wonder you guys have been busy

Perdition · reply
2019-10-01 14:30 · 2019-10-01

I do $5 a month.

2019-10-05 01:57 · 2019-10-05

can we please get a way to freeze tracks, my comp is shit, i need to save cpu

2019-10-05 03:53 · 2019-10-05

Mute all the tracks except the one that u want to freeze, and go to Project > Sample upload > Bounce timeline

virux · reply
2019-10-05 14:10 · 2019-10-05

Problem: you’re fucked if it’s over 30 seconds

2019-10-06 23:24 · 2019-10-06

cant find any hip hop samples or drums

solar plexus · reply
2019-10-06 23:46 · 2019-10-06

Why wouldn’t you just chop it up into 30 second intervals

owtlet · reply
2019-10-06 23:53 · 2019-10-06

I give 5

virux · reply
2019-10-06 23:55 · 2019-10-06

takes time

2019-11-26 06:13 · 2019-11-26

we need a synth specifically make for sub basses/808

Perdition · reply
2019-11-26 06:15 · 2019-11-26

R u stupid? Literally the berg starts as a sub...

Perdition · reply
2019-11-26 06:15 · 2019-11-26

Sure u need to make slight modifications, but it literqlly starts as a sine wave

owtlet · reply
2019-11-26 07:03 · 2019-11-26

bruh

ollie · reply
2019-11-26 15:48 · 2019-11-26

bruh

virux · reply
2019-11-26 16:06 · 2019-11-26

bruh

i17 · reply
2019-11-27 04:47 · 2019-11-27

bruh

L8 BLOOMER · reply
2019-11-27 05:18 · 2019-11-27

bruh

2019-11-27 12:33 · 2019-11-27

Man!

2019-12-01 19:21 · 2019-12-01

Why is audiotool glitching?

2019-12-10 18:41 · 2019-12-10

it takes too long, and with that you lose editability and you have to re render the track everytime

2019-12-10 18:44 · 2019-12-10
  1. time limit

  2. freeze lets you turn off the track as a whole but easily revert to the unfrozen version, so not deleting it

  3. nobody wants a college textbook of samples in the my section. just keep it in like a temp folder in the track samples section

  4. constantly uploading samples is tedious

i stole this from proj epsilon

2019-12-10 19:44 · 2019-12-10

So what's up for 2020?

Snad Breugen · reply
2019-12-16 17:04 · 2019-12-16

Brexit

naut · reply
2019-12-16 18:18 · 2019-12-16

@sandburgen now that's a bold claim

Snad Breugen · reply
2019-12-16 18:52 · 2019-12-16

ok sorry. BER

Known As I · reply
2019-12-16 19:25 · 2019-12-16

Yeah, that's an achievable milestone.

ollie · reply
2019-12-16 19:34 · 2019-12-16

as a brit i can say i have literally no idea what we're doing with this brexit stuff

Snad Breugen · reply
2019-12-16 20:14 · 2019-12-16

As a son of a brit who decided to become a German after 50 years because she was ashamed of the result I have no idea either. But as a boring old fart hippie once said: Times they are changing

Infyuthsion · reply
2019-12-17 00:15 · 2019-12-17

Breakfast

2019-12-19 08:52 · 2019-12-19

Year change soon

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