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Update and delete presets

Jordi Moragues · started 2018-07-31 10:05 · updated 2024-01-28 22:45

Unless I'm missing something, there's no way to update a saved preset. It would be good to be able to update an existing saved preset with new values. It could work like this: after a preset has been first saved, the "Preset ► Save" menu item could open the Save Preset dialogue box with the same parameters used for the last save. If the name isn't changed in the dialogue, the same preset would be overwritten. This would let us change the metadata of the preset. If the name is changed, a new preset would be saved. For deletion, a "X" icon could be added to the Assets > Presets page.

Comments (31)

2018-07-31 11:11 · 2018-07-31

That'll be nice

2018-08-01 10:59 · 2018-08-01

YES

2018-08-03 04:52 · 2018-08-03

Ima bump this. I want to be able to change the name or just outright delete a preset.

2018-08-03 15:12 · 2018-08-03

I agree. I updated the topic to include deleting presets.

Infyuthsion · reply
2018-08-04 18:45 · 2018-08-04

Yeah

anonymous user · reply
2018-09-01 22:05 · 2018-09-01

I don't see this being an incredibly hard task... Deleting a preset out of your library while leaving the parameters (of the preset) unchanged in the songs people used the preset in.

sila · reply
2018-09-02 07:42 · 2018-09-02

If I use your preset or whatever asset, and you change or delete it, my track is screwed then. Think about that as well.

2018-09-02 07:45 · 2018-09-02

what if they made it to were if that were to happen, then that synth wouldnt be affected.

2018-09-02 09:25 · 2018-09-02

@borozo A developer should confirm this, but I don't think that a persistent connection is maintained between a preset and the control values of the device it's applied to. In other words, the only thing a preset does is to set the controls of the affected device to certain values. Once that has happened, the values (which you might even tweak afterwards) stay no matter what happens to the preset.

2019-03-22 16:11 · 2019-03-22

bumping again

2019-03-25 03:12 · 2019-03-25

yes

2019-03-25 03:13 · 2019-03-25

i've created a lot of random presets that i never use at all now, and i really wish there was a way that i could delete some of them

2021-05-07 02:03 · 2021-05-07

I realize this chat has been inactive for a while, but I cannot find how to delete or update a preset. I take it that this feature has not been added. I would therefore like to bring it up again, @andremichelle @jordynth , in the hopes that it might be added, as it would be very useful. I currently have a preset I made that I have improved substantially. I would like to replace the first one as the second is far better. The first one also has an accurate name for the sound, and I used the same name for the second one on account of its accuracy, but now there are two presets with the same name. Not being able to delete them makes things rather confusing over time, so a delete feature, or perhaps an update feature (or both?) would be very nice and tidy things up.

2021-05-07 17:30 · 2021-05-07

I agree, maintaining presets (deleting, updating) would be great. I personally have no influence over when this might be implemented, as I'm not in the dev team. I hope they give this a look again. In my understanding, this wouldn't be too difficult to do.

DtripleJ · reply
2021-05-09 21:59 · 2021-05-09

yes please! this would be much appreciated! it is very frustrating cause i have ocd, please do this

2021-06-10 19:03 · 2021-06-10

I would like to add another - Please add this feature. I agree that it would be fantastic to have the ability to remove presets. I have a number that I would like to remove, for the sake of being clean.

Movriel · reply
2022-10-26 01:47 · 2022-10-26

Yeah

anonymous user
2023-03-14 03:44 · 2023-03-14

I was thinking about this too, and the same for samples!!

Movriel · reply
2023-03-14 03:46 · 2023-03-14

You can edit samples, just not presets

anonymous user · reply
2023-03-14 03:47 · 2023-03-14

Really? How?? I can’t edit my samples I uploaded, and I can’t delete them either.. I don’t know if it’s a bug or I can’t find it, but I want to know..

Movriel · reply
2023-03-14 04:11 · 2023-03-14

you can't delete samples but you can edit them, at the top of the page on the sample where it says "admin edit sample" is where you edit it

anonymous user · reply
2023-03-14 04:46 · 2023-03-14

Okay, thanks! I will suggest to be able to delete samples!

2023-04-19 09:35 · 2023-04-19

What if another user used the preset in his track? Why not just opening the preset, update it and save it under a different name ?
It's all about this thought: sharing knowledge and content with the community for the use of everybody. The consequence is, you can't edit or delete it because you offered it to others.

kiari · reply
2023-05-01 12:42 · 2023-05-01

I'm not necessarily advocating for this feature but it does make me wonder about something; I understand why this exists for samples, but does it really have to exist for presets?
Synth parameters in existing tracks don't necessarily have to change when the draft is reopened just because a preset that was used has been edited or deleted right? In theory it should be possible to be able to edit presets and then when a draft is opened that used a previous preset it no longer registers as a preset but still saves the parameters themselves.
It only makes sense that users would want to update and reorganize their catalogue of presets to better reflect the level of quality they want to represent rather than just keep making new but similar ones and further muddying their profile's presets tab for users to scroll through.

Movriel · reply
2023-05-01 12:47 · 2023-05-01

you should also be able to edit the name and descriptions

Snad Breugen · reply
2023-05-02 06:31 · 2023-05-02

But doesn't that create the case that after the change, the preset will no longer show up as yours in the tracks it was used in? Or is it shown in the assets with the name and maybe parameter change? And the artist who liked the preset so much that he wants to use it again and it's suddenly changed? So from my logic this can only work if different versions of the preset exist. And that is already possible

anonymous user · reply
2024-01-27 06:44 · 2024-01-27

I feel like if I want to delete a preset Im already well aware of and fine with the fact that it wont be attributed to me anymore
but in the case of editing presets I think you're right. for it to still recognize you as the author after an edit, audiotool would have to store and keep track of all the different versions anyway. maybe give users the ability to hide/unhide presets so that they can control what's visible in their preset library without having to commit to a deletion. this would only affect their assets tab and presets search in the studio, so tracks using hidden presets would still list and attribute them accordingly (hence "hide/unhide" instead of "private/unprivate", seems like less confusing wording)

2024-01-27 16:03 · 2024-01-27

Issues and their fixes:

  • A preset being changed or deleted may affect tracks that use them (fix: the track won't be changed unless the author goes into the studio and clicks some checkboxes)
  • A sample being replaced or deleted may affect tracks that use them (fix: same as above; error: a sample could have been deleted if the person who made it never wanted it to be there because it contains something they don't want people to know, such as maybe their voice or what their mom sounds like when yelling their name; fix for that: the owner of the sample could see each and every person using their sample and every track it is in and can request to the AT Team that the copies of the sample are to be force-removed; error: the AT Team could be too understaffed for that; fix for that: more employees; error: budget is a thing)
  • Someone could record a sample before it is deleted and republish it as their own (error: I can't think of a fix for this)

A debate on this is encouraged (and please keep it civil and calm). I don't want to be wrong, but I don't want to be convinced that I am right when there are many things to prove right and wrong that haven't been proved.

Movriel · reply
2024-01-28 22:45 · 2024-01-28

Well I think if someone deletes their preset or sample it wouldn't list it in the sample/preset selection when you're looking for it. I also think if it is in any current drafts, presets would just delete and the synth would be the same, just not with the preset listed as the preset.
For samples maybe it could be usable still in any current drafts, just not able to be used in any other draft. So basically it would be listed as a deleted sample, however it would only be deleted from all drafts if it is copyright infringing. You could still use a non-copyright infringing deleted sample but it wouldn't be listed in assets either. Maybe the owner of a deleted sample can also request it be deleted from all drafts, if the team allows it.