So here's an idea. What if there were specific groups created to which artists could publish their tracks to? Maybe there could be a ranking system or you could follow specific groups to listen to the artists that publish to it.
To clear things up, this feature could involve
- Only specific artists in a group could publish, creator of group invites others
- All users can listen, comment, etc, just cannot publish
Mainly just an idea to sort of, filter out some of the stuff by genre if artists are looking for specific genres, or a specific place to hold collabs with similar artists.
Only possible problem I see would be "super-groups", where a few artists that chart often join and don't invite others to the group. Which is why I don't think group tracks should have a chart system. There could be some sort of way to organize, but let me know what you all think, and please give some suggestions. I truly believe this kind of feature could help with overall enjoyment for passionate artists and their listeners.
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So what youre saying is make genre specific stuff
Honestly, the more I think about it, the users involved in the group should be the only ones able to comment. Maybe turn this into more of a small, private type thing. Group tracks should not be able to chart in the regular track section.
Just a way to get artists to work together in almost, a discord-server type way. Users could request to join, but the main idea would be a group of friends that can isolate their feedback.
I feel like thats dividing the community more than it would help
But i like the idea
If youre dividing by friends or something along those lines it would create more drama between people, but i can see why. People have tried to fix the community before, but it just doesnt work usually
I know for sure, its definitely too divided at the moment, I just want others to throw ideas until we have a clearer idea of what to do. I just definitely feel like there's a problem with how it is right now, there needs to be some sort of structure and adjustment at the very least to the charting system.
The structure is already fukd i mean ite beyond repair at this point
I don't believe that.
You can sure try and I want to see this suceed but im not exactly sold on it
Also fuck my spelling again
I got a crazier idea... remove the charts lol
If making groups too public is a way of dividing and making arguments, then maybe it should stay private. So others can get feedback and stuff on tracks that maybe they want to release, but a more convenient way of asking for crit. Rather than uploading something to soundcloud or clyp, it can be done here, and multiple people can see it.
My inly question is how would it stimulate growth if you have the same people crit over and over
i dont think groups should be tiny, little groups of 5 or 6 artists, I'm thinking more like 30+ of artists that join a group that might be based on "Critique" or a group for "Dirty Bass" and etc
Its a stretch but it could work
This should be a private, non-ranked, chartless affair cause as you said the bigger users will just team up and dominate
I see a pair of flaws, it is a good idea however.
exactly, i want it a way for smaller artists to get their individual tracks noticed more, maybe before they pub to the community or just private tracks for crit. a way to improve and get that affirmation that something is right without getting a few comments that say "nice job" and no idea whether what they're doing is improving.
We already have the concept of tags. At the moment, tags are very rudimentary implemented, but maybe your idea can be build on top of tags. (We actually discussed similar ideas in the team). Eg. tags could specially marked as a musical genre. Users would need to take responsibility of a tag (to make sure that tags are used appropriately). We then could have genre-specific charts, boards etc. However, I do not like your proposal that only invited users publish to a group ( = "use a tag").
Private groups not even an option? Even if there is no charting system or likes, just a way to get private feedback?
Do you think that private feedback is more valuable?
Private feedback with a group of small people can be dangerous, but at least some feature that takes away this whole, rise to the top mentality that a lot of artists have. I do not like the chart system. And I know that I am not alone in this.
It depends who you're getting feedback from tbh, id value constructive criticism from an experienced user over a newer user for obvious reasons
Chances are that things like private messaging would introduce even more drama on audiotool. Don't get me wrong: I like your idea, but I think the private part is not essential in this.
Right, for this idea to work there should to be some sort of middle line where groups are monitored by the public eye without making anyone feel left out.
Maybe the tags could be offered as a drop-down menu or auto-fill text with a fixed (but extensive) set of terms, so that typos or badly written tags could be avoided, thus preventing the track from being correctly indexed and make it easier to find. The same set of terms could be used to search tracks by genre. I think SoundCloud has something like this.
i really do like this feature but i feel like it fills such a niche role that it would be better to implement different more broad features that would allow for the same possibilities but also improve at in more ways so that there's not too many features
Like what Microsoft did with the xbox's club feature? but obviously in a different style to incorporate some of Audiotool's features