I think we should have a synth that is capable of FM synthesis, it would really open up a whole lot of new sounds for audiotoolers to play around with.
I think we should have a synth that is capable of FM synthesis, it would really open up a whole lot of new sounds for audiotoolers to play around with.
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I think that FM (frequency modulation) and PM (phase modulation) produce very similar results. Many commercial synthesizers advertised as FM (including the Yamaha DX7) use PM internally because it's easier to implement. The Heisenberg is a PM synth and capable of many sounds you could achieve with a "FM" synth. Here's a thorough explanation: https://moinsound.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/frequency-modulation-or-phase-modulation-synthesizer-technologies/
Here's a mode in depth explanation of Phase Modulation (what the Heisenberg does): https://rhordijk.home.xs4all.nl/G2Pages/SoundSources.htm#SoundSources_5688_999255 According to this reference, PM is preferable to FM especially when self-modulating carriers, as it doesn't introduce pitch shift like FM does.
that's really cool, didn't know that
..but it does sound like you are trying to avoid work ;)
The Heisenberg is really a beast, you should try to explore it in depth. Normally FM/PM synths give you a limited selection of algorithms that connect carriers and modulators (all producing sine waves) to choose from. The Heisenberg gives you 49 different waveforms for its carriers/modulators and a matrix that allows theoretically 65535 different algorithms. On top of that, you have complex LFOs and envelopes to change those modulations over time. That's a huge sound design potential over traditional FM synths.
alright, i'll try to play around with the heis, haven't really touched it much at all since it doesn't look that friendly.
As already explained on Discord: PM synthesis can produce exactly the same sounds as FM synthesis. But the user interface behaves differently. (unless someone proves me wrong ;)
However: the Heisenberg would need an increased modulation range (>100) to be capable of producing more FM-like sounds.
it doesn't already go to 100???
o no kurpo i love the berg i rarely touch the pulv, though the pulv has more harmonics and you can hear it as you go down in pitch.
at least on simpler waveforms
PM synthesis is literally the same thing lmao
even in serum, thats what it is rly modulating when it does FM
Err ... no. Not the same but related:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_modulation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_modulation
It says more than 100
Thanks for the links. The animated visualisations at the right of each page help a lot to understand what goes on in each and why aren't they exactly the same.
i should make one for something audiotool actually doesn't have, a sampler
It has been made already countless times. Just search for "sampler" in this board. Example: https://www.audiotool.com/board/feature_requests/dedicated_sampler Besides, only one request per topic.
i guess wavetable prob exists, what about granular synthesis
"... only one request per topic. "
https://www.audiotool.com/board/feature_requests/granular_synthesis
That's a different device. Again, one request per topic. Just search the board and make sure it doesn't exist already (both granular and wavetable have been requested already), then make your post. https://www.audiotool.com/board/feature_requests/how_to_write_feature
Welp
(Who the fork is requesting for granular synthesis when at doesn’t have a sampler what)
Well how do u feel now all these 3 features have been requested and will prob take months each to implement
I feel like not having enough time to implement everything.
Well of all the feature requests, ranging from ridiculous to actually good ideas, which ones do y’all feel ur most likely to implement
Please take this discussion elsewhere (maybe https://www.audiotool.com/board/chitchat ).
Also have a look here:
https://www.audiotool.com/board/chitchat/what_s_your_most
https://www.audiotool.com/board/news/what_s_up_for_2019
https://www.audiotool.com/board/news/we_re_planning_a_major