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nah I don't think there should ever be an option to force people to follow you to download your tracks that shit is just blatant padding and is already a problem with music sharing in some circles

I guess the remix thing is okay if you really want to have some semblance of control over quality of branches that grow from what you made originally but I guess a question that inevitably pops into my head is why do you really want this as an option to begin with?

im thinking like, followers as a boundary for theft

or only people I follow can download/remix my track

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I think if someone is going to create an account to remix and steal your music, they're just as likely to click the one extra button to gain access to steal it

Tbh it could be good for having followers
I’d like to believe there’s a sufficient grey area of people that would follow to do a remix/download and then probably go “oh what the heck I’ll stick around”

I think instead of something so passive aggressive and oddly roundabout; for remixes I would suggest something a bit more nuanced in the realm of formally requesting access. It can be intimidating to come out and ask for permission sometimes but maybe if there were a button that sent a request notification for remixing tracks that have the remix option disabled it would put half the role in each party's hands and make it more of a mutual arrangement.

if it was the standard that in order to remix, you must be following, it would definitely stimulate interactions, cause now youre following someone cause you like their music. oh look they commented on this track i havent listened to

I understand that the reason you are referring to makes joes request useless as there is no added security, but I think if you consider the organizational purposes and the placebo it may bring that it’s not a bad idea

site already has placebo feature like 'fans'

like why are you remixing someones song in the first place if youre not interested in the artist that made it. all that does is make it waay too easy to do whats so frustrating about the current remix policy. reposts with no changes

Ehh someone could very easily do the same thing after following you tbh, idk if the action of following would change those peoples mind about how they’ll remix the track

I think the action of being inspired by one track and playing off of their idea and being interested in the artist as a whole should remain mutually exclusive ideas not only for the sake of music sharing as a whole but keeping the experience as natural as possible

i kinda like that you can remix a track from whoever you want regardless of your relationship to that person. there's many tracks i want to remix from users whose work i usually dont really care about

• we already have the button to report identical remixes, and remix theft isn't as much of an issue as it used to be. the people who do it now get MAYBE 1 like out of it
  as for downloads, anyone can dl your shit even if you disable it in settings. i forget how but if you add some things to the track link it just takes you to the raw audio file and you can download it there. this is something they really need to fix

That I get fs, some people might recognize the site pushing more interaction and get put off by it

there's no way of actually removing the backdoor to downloading tracks on this site currently, they can only periodically change the steps necessary to pull it off which I wish they would at least try to do every now and then

about 5 seconds ago, my song was remixed. it used privated copyrighted samples and is absolutely dogshit. I like having my songs remixed, but not like that. i think my idea is a good way of making a whitelist of those who can and cannot remix my tracks. Its simply an extended look at the "allow remixes' button

Yeah it’s unfortunately so easy to download my latest track called the moment the cinnamon hits your lungs in collaboration with 123hogus and shmoergle

there already is a way to request remix access through getting invited > create bookmark > decline invitation

I understand the want to have a way to filter who's able to remix and who isn't but why is the suggestion such a weird roundabout one? Like wouldn't it make more sense to have an actual whitelist instead of this weird unreliable follow mechanic

the only "problem" with the current method there is some small level of trust in that since you're giving access to the original draft

im totally open to different avenues to meet the same end goal
a button on the publish screen to allow whitelist followers is jsut the one that made the most sense to me

maybe instead of a whitelist at all, tracks that have remix turned off instead have a "request remix" button that the publisher can manually allow or deny

BRO I SAID THAT

yeah like on tracks how theres different tabs for samples used/favorited/comments
theres different tabs for the feed! i like that

damn mb i just refreshed and theres a whole fucking chunk of this thread that wasnt there b4

it could be a tab in the comments

i just want the home page to be better tbh

i think if board notifs were a separate thing i would use the board more

Let’s think about how someone may come off as a supportive artist based on different features they use to gate remixing their tracks. I think this is the difference I’m personally worried about. At the end of the day all of this is a choice based on user settings, not everyone will choose to implement a gate. To piggy back on Joe’s point of pushing interaction, a remixers perspective of each mentioned option may give note to some systems ruining creative momentum or interest if the artist has chosen those gates.

Artist A has chosen a Whitelist, so only a small handful, maybe a few dozen at chosen max, are allowed to remix. Anyone else who tries may get an option to request or simply be given a message of denial, but they are aware of the Whitelist.

Artist B has chosen the follower gate. Attempting to remix without following could just give a prompt stating said remixer is not following the artist. This is a feature the remixer knows the artist has turned on.

Artist C has requests only. When a remixer clicks a button, they are notified of a sent request and understand that the artist has turned on this feature for everyone.

Now which feature sounds rude? Or most inviting? Or compliant?

I've been thinking about the front page for a very long time because it's extremely ugly and difficult to look at for more than a minute and it definitely falls in line with the idea of different tabs but I was thinking like a sort of drop down menu with top tabs for filtering between things like comments and publishes and board posts and then side tabs for filtering between artists you follow, top rated comments, most favourited tracks with daily and weekly filters on top of that, most recent posts, etc. Would be a much more welcome addition than the frankly antique looking list of activity bubbles we have now

i dont think all of these should be implemented at the same time, that just seems redundant
i should also note that if your request is denied it shouldnt tell you youve been denied, you just won't be able to remix still. same with if someone denies your invitation, it doesnt notify you, they just don't become a co-author

yeah choosing between - no remixes / remix with approval / any can remix
is a much more simpler approach

what if alsongside the request, you can add a little comment

"(artist) sent a remix request for (your song's title) 'just want to look at how you made that synth' "

yeah i really dont like that everything is just in one consecutive stream of activity because so much can get buried by 1 person you follow being way more active than others

honestly really good idea, i actually have latest activity from everyone i follow turned off because it gets really annoying really fast when someone is just doing too much and kinda blowing up the notifs, was thinking about having 2 different notif bells; one for notifications related to you (i.e likes, comments, replies and follows) and one for what your "friends" do (the people who you follow back), would probably be a good idea since only what your friends do is visible.
then for the people you follow you can see their music and activity in general in another tab not related to notifications (if you have their activity turned on in the cog thing that decay prompted), also https://www.audiotool.com/user/inxile412/ 's idea is honestly really good, but i think it might be a little complicated for people who are new, but i any change to the layout of the sites home page would be beneficial.

wouldn’t be complicated at all, these systems are in place all over the internet and people rarely have problems with them because they’re so concise and organized options. shopping websites like amazon have similar layouts with even more options but just less sleek and more cluttered than the one I’m imagining in my head

I know this is dead rn but I wanted to clarify that those were 3 mutually exclusive hypotheticals. What could be implemented is not limited to those, it’s just roughly the three ideas mentioned previously in the thread