Ever want a limiter in AT? What if I told you it's already there? Just follow these steps to have an efficient limiter in AT.
'''1. Place down "Gravity", the new compressor
2. Turn the "Ratio" knob to 50.0
3.Turn the "RMS Window" knob to 0.00 ms
4. Turn the "Knee" knob to 0.00 db
5. Turn the "Attack" and "Release" knobs to 0.00 ms'''
==Now wherever the "Threshold" knob is turned to is where the audio will be limited.
Enjoy!==
Comments (32)
A limiter is just an infinite ratio compressor--put extremely simply.
Turning the RMS window, attack, and release to 0 will just turn Gravity into a clipper. You'll want to at least have a slow enough release.
Preset?
limiter is a clipper
in reaper it's called a "soft clipper / limiter"
on multiple occasions ppl told me what a limiter is on like yt er somethin i thought i should try applying that knowledge.
No, a limiter is not a clipper per se. It can be used as such with 0 attack and release, but when using longer attack and delay, the point of the limiter is to keep the audio at less than 0 dB without clipping. This happens when the volume is reduced around a peak.
didn't we already have the limiter before gravity, and it was pretty much just the output thing but it still has the little switch that says limiter
Made, check my profile. It's "Project Epsilon's Limiter Preset"
i agree with this, i've seen alot of artists who leave their music clipped or "limited" but also have seen a couple of tutorials which tell you to turn it on straight off the bat xP
I agree with Inavon. Clipping (brick wall) is an extreme form of limiting but it will destroy your peaks and cause distortion. You want a limiter to handle your waveform as musically as possible. I'd say anything above a 10:1 (1 dB output for every 10 dB input above the threshold) compression ratio is considering limiting. 20:1 and above are considered brick wall limiting.
or put a waveshaper on the master voila
maybe use a little bit of knee.
aww u shouldn't have
balls to the wall how about inf:1
.-.
So you’re telling me
That i spENT ALL THAT WORK MAKING A NICE PRESET FIR THE GRAVITY AHH
Jk
But which one is better?
gravity
a default waveshaper
o wait i made this topic im dum
for real tho how u gonna brickwall limit something without a brickwall ratio? we need inf:1
say if you compress to -6 and turn up 6, it'll be clipping.
yeah lmao
I've noticed that the gravity preset makes things sound a tad distorted when applied :/
not sure if I did something wrong or what
I mean, it WORKS
but it sounds a bit more like a fart if you know what I mean
its the sub. might it help to use quantum instead?
heavier compression with more release?
probably
I'll try that out and let you know if it works
no check my tracks. the waveshaper limits well because a track could be loud af (with loud af sub) and it would be really loud and just as clean (besides a bit of distortion), but no clipping. Whereas if I had done the same but used gravity (0 threshold don't get it twisted), it would be clipping cuz it has no inf:1 ratio, and earrape, and the sub would sound awful.
the waveshaper does limit, along with bit crusher and i think some other effects
Guys, you're arguing with the main developer? Good luck. Also, limiting isn't just chopping the top of the waveform off. Yes, the waveshaper can do that, at the price of introducing distortion, which is what is designed to do. Limiters do much more than cut peaks with an axe. They are specialised compressors designed to deal with peaks as transparently (no distortion) as possible. Besides, the axes of the waveshaper and the points of its curve don't have any units in them, so good luck trying to set a threshold. The bitcrusher doesn't limit. It adds quantisation noise (depth) and harmonics (bit rate). It definitely changes the shape of the waveform but it has nothing to do with limiting, which is about dynamic compression (volume) only. That's why you better use Gravity for the job.
@andremichelle I agree. I think that they are mixing up the transfer curve they see on the waveshaper and the curve they see in the compressor screen, thinking it's the same thing. Just to be clear for them, both are transfer curves, but one deals with the shape of the wave and the other deals with its loudness. The only way that a waveshaper could function as a limiter/compressor would be to have just a straight diagonal line (no distortion), whose right point changed its Y value depending of the volume of the input. But that's exactly what a compressor does, so that's what you use.
@andremichelle Yes, you're right. It's a misunderstanding. I meant just having two points (the default diagonal) and lowering the right one. The line stays straight but the diagonal is lower, so you're affecting only output volume. You can see on the example sine wave how only its amplitude changes. If the point reaches the bottom, you'd have a horizontal line which means silence at the output. Compression would be the equivalent of moving that point up and down (by hand) very fast to change output amplitude depending on the loudness you hear at the input. It's a silly example, but just to make the point that the waveshaper and the compressor don't do the same thing.
ah, I see my bad