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Vulkron's rant about most producer's mindsets

Vulkron · started 2020-01-10 01:48 · updated 2020-03-26 19:05

When did music become about getting attention?

I look around and see so many people wanting attention for their music: "check my traq bruh" "follow for follow?" "(everything a promotion scheme says)"

This is why pop music is so terrible, and ironically no one likes it.

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Music is a gift.

If you love music, good. If you love to make music, great! If you want to use music just so you can gain acceptance from everyone else, you're a cheapo fuck.

Stop all that bullshit.

Share music, but not because you want attention, but because you want to share your music with the world.

"hey check out this sound I made! wanna collab on it?"

"yooooo that shit sounds dope, but i think it would sound even better if you added [long list of effects and nerdy stuff]."

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In short, make music because you wanna make music, not for clout or attention or whatnot.

But also, don't just "do the right thing" because i said so in this post.

I want you to understand WHY its the right thing.

Comments (34)

2020-01-10 03:46 · 2020-01-10

uh...yeah completely agree with this post tired of people wanting attention for the wrong reasons such as charting

2020-01-10 06:07 · 2020-01-10

well said.

2020-01-10 08:52 · 2020-01-10

Picture someone sending a link to their track here in the comments

2020-01-10 09:38 · 2020-01-10

people that annoy me a lot are the guys who follow everyone for a follow and then unfollow them to look like they have a larger audience

owtlet · reply
2020-01-10 09:38 · 2020-01-10

gotta have that ratio amiright kids

2020-01-10 09:43 · 2020-01-10

I mean, the whole point of audiotool being more than just a studio is for people to share music

2020-01-10 09:44 · 2020-01-10

it's weird to hear this stuff about acceptance coming from an artist that never takes any risks with his music. You only make the most generic, audience friendly content that is currently trending

owtlet · reply
2020-01-10 09:46 · 2020-01-10

this thread is not going to help anyone. Why not show these guys better ways to promote and interact in the community.

Velocistar · reply
2020-01-10 09:47 · 2020-01-10

If the person in question is anything like we’re describing, they won’t listen.

Velocistar · reply
2020-01-10 09:47 · 2020-01-10

big facts

owtlet · reply
2020-01-10 09:49 · 2020-01-10

yeah probably because you called them trash

owtlet · reply
2020-01-10 09:50 · 2020-01-10

this entire thread is just beating a dead horse

Velocistar · reply
2020-01-10 09:50 · 2020-01-10

No, that wouldn’t help, you’re right about that.
But if you give them the advice and they don’t take it, what else can you do?

owtlet · reply
2020-01-10 09:52 · 2020-01-10

At one point or another we all bothered the fuck outta a bigger artist on here to get them to collab with us

2020-01-11 08:38 · 2020-01-11

ok boomer

2020-01-11 18:50 · 2020-01-11

I've been working on my industrial music and trying out playing live in the past year. I spent a lot of time and heart working on my tracks. Last week I played and as soon as I started singing I completely murdered the dance floor and everyone left. I know that I could have just made some easy techno and done that for awhile, and that people would have liked it. I feel like it would be really easy to also just make an MP3 beforehand and hit play and just DJ. People jammed all night to the DJs playing really standard sounding house loops. I guess I just want to do Industrial still because it's what I wanted to do growing up. And now there's barely any scene for it. It does feel kind of bad when easy effort music gets attention and stuff you cared about falls to the wayside, but I guess that's just how it goes.

sila · reply
2020-01-11 21:19 · 2020-01-11

+++
Love u man.

2020-03-02 02:46 · 2020-03-02

shut up

2020-03-03 04:50 · 2020-03-03

You know what hits the most?
.
Ask what the majority is (imo)...What kind music do you listen to often?
"Hip Hop"
.
Me, listening to a low effort mix they are showing me with off sync lyrics...
thinking..{
"This is the kind stuff you like?"
};
.
What other genres do you listen to?
"Not much other than hip hop"
.
Really!? Have you ever tried EDM? I could show you an example--
"No. I think EDM is shit"
.
This is exaggerated but I've come across this so many times. Kinda hurts. There will be the cases where you want to share with others but they simply don't care.

This is somewhat a vent. Don't @ me if you support Hip Hop; I have my interests, you have yours.

virux · reply
2020-03-03 12:48 · 2020-03-03

I'm betting it gets attention because it's easy

anonymous user
2020-03-07 23:51 · 2020-03-07

i wonder who he's referring to

anonymous user · reply
2020-03-07 23:53 · 2020-03-07

LMFAO

2020-03-12 05:00 · 2020-03-12

I understand exactly where you're coming from. There's a thin line that balances between "how can I obnoxiously tell everyone about my music" and "I don't give a shit if anyone sees my music" that's where I'm at. I honestly don't care much if I gain popularity or not, but I am happy to at least see people enjoying my music, and it would make me happier if I saw more people enjoying my music. I just don't want to take it to the point where "hey this is pointless unless everyone on AT knows who I am" besides. Music isn't about gaining popularity at all whether you want to gain clout just to say you did something, or if you just want to be noticed. Making music is all about expressing yourself and your creativity to the fullest of you ability. Expressing the way you see the world, how you perceive it, and how you live your own life, reacting to that perception. Expressing your feelings, and your life as though it were a canvas, and the paint is your words, releasing all of that pent up energy, bad or good, sad or joyful, so you can be relieved of that stress, and others can enjoy the fruits of your work and time.

Akiri · reply
2020-03-14 13:58 · 2020-03-14

Shut the fuck up~

Akiri · reply
2020-03-14 14:00 · 2020-03-14

I come across this too much as well, I understand how you feel and it’s a feeling of genuine annoyance and madness because they can’t understand or even try to listen to good edm or future bass or anything other than hip hop

beez · reply
2020-03-14 16:09 · 2020-03-14

lmao you dont listen to the same music I do

Vulkron · reply
2020-03-14 20:28 · 2020-03-14

I make what i wanna make and i share it with y'all
thats it

2020-03-14 20:45 · 2020-03-14

This is kinda on the line of Art Envy, which is why people would want much attention. Here's a helpful post if anybody wanna read about it:

https://gildedguy.com/art-envy/

credencefaith · reply
2020-03-14 20:59 · 2020-03-14

vvvv That's all there should be

Vulkron · reply
2020-03-14 23:06 · 2020-03-14

actually it had nothing to do with u

Akiri · reply
2020-03-15 02:53 · 2020-03-15

I know, but I want Vizil to shut up

2020-03-26 08:17 · 2020-03-26

Hot take: people can make music for any reason. It's not necessary to demand that everyone's reason should be that they want just want to make music. It's ok to seek attention. Now, seeking attention without being annoying is a different discussion.

2020-03-26 18:18 · 2020-03-26

angst

anonymous user · reply
2020-03-26 19:05 · 2020-03-26

actually it had nothing to do with u