Hi Guys,
we know that some of you had serious issues with the new audiotool, having audio dropouts even with the simplest setups. A few days ago, we made some changes that noticeably improved audio performance on our machines. Also, the most recent chrome update (70) seems to improve the situation. We were able to confirm this on mac, linux, windows 10 and on a chrome book. On all of these machines, the new audiotool performs similar or even better than the flash app.
Please let us know if you are still having audio glitches. If so, please include the following information:
- browser and version
- operation system
- whether or not checking the "worklet" option in the preference panel improves the results
- screen resolution
- if possible, CPU / GPU type and clock speed
- a link to the draft / track
Thanks!
Comments (44)
Oh, that's right! I have noticed Audiotool becoming a little less laggy...
Nice!
I have the occasional audio glitch, but it's not a huge deal or a huge cause for concern. I just reload and it will usually work once more.
Reloading really fixes the issue for you? That must be annoying. So when it starts to glitch, it does not recover?
No, it doesn't seem to recover. I've waited a bunch, and the audio still will jump around the timeline and make stuff sound weird. Luckily, auto-save exists, so I can reload without huge problems... but the issue is kind of justified, I'm using a school-issued Chromebook with quite a few things playing at once.
I find that audiotool runs just fine audibly (with or without the booster), but visually, it's kinda bad in terms of framerate with or without the Lower FPS option toggled (especially on larger projects). BUT, when I disabled the Mip-Mapping option, that COMPLETELY changed how much better it looked visually. The framerate instantly jumped back up to a smooth level that is completely workable. I thought that might be nice to know for anybody who may want to increase their framerate.
I should try that tbh
Chrome, I assume latest
Windows 10
Cant remix manty songs
Can you provide more info about the CPU? Have you tried checking / unchecking the worklet option in the preferences?
It won't load the page! Not the nginx error, fixed by putting /#/remix/ before the id, it says flash error or something like that...
Lost In Space is one example, today I had problems with ugly bastard, the error was something to do with original artists
Linux Mint, Core i7 7th Gen
Output via Cheap USB-to-analog-audio adapter
Firefox Quantum 63.0 (64-bit)
Chrome Version 70.0.3538.110 (Official Build) (64-bit)
It's generally working fine, but every now and then my machine enters the continuous-buffer-glitches-mode. Interestingly this also happens to the music-player (radio?). Sometimes closing other audiotool.com-tabs helps, sometimes reloading the affected tab helps. Sometimes the player needs another 100 glitches before returning back to normal.
I observed three patterns:
I mostly use Firefox but the phenomenon also sometimes happen in the App on a current Chrome with activated AudioWorklet.
I also observed this while listening to soundcloud which makes be believe there's generally a misbehaving combination of browser technologies, drivers, OS, zodiac, ... reminds me of: https://www.xkcd.com/676/
The machine has plenty of memory and computing power left but I guess some scheduler fails to see which thread demands increased attention.
I'm pretty sure that's not what you wanted to hear :/ I will try to add some details if this happens again, so you have something to aim for.
https://www.audiotool.com/track/lost_in_space/
https://www.audiotool.com/track/mlgt6u366k/
Lost in space error code:
com.audiotool.collab.DisplayableCollabException: Migration of flash track failed.
Thanks for providing such detailed information!
I'm especially interested in the Glitches of mass-destruction phenomenon. I haven't been able to reproduce it on my machine unfortunately. This looks like a bug on our side. I will look into this next week.
I assume that the glitches related to UI activities only occur when running without the worklet, right? In worklet mode, we are dropping UI frames when a buffer underrun is about to happen. It is possible to do this when running without the worklet, which is on my list.
Sorry that I can't remember the specific circumstances but I'm pretty sure this effect didn't stop even when the browser window was minimized. Chrome performed worse with activated Worklet in some scenarios.
I know that audio rendering assures a minimum of compute power for that tab even if it's not visible, but I don't know for sure if this also affects the GUI rendering.
I'll try to spend more time with the app - for testing of course ... and Science!!
Freshly opened Chrome (no other instance in sight). Added a single Machniste with a single kick-sample in a boring loop.
It doesn't help to switch the audio device from the USB output to the internal notebook speaker.
The VU-meter seems to lag, too, but this might also be due to a limited frame-rate.
I made a short benchmark and copied some warnings and errors from the js console which I'll send you per mail along with a (poor) recording of the sound.
ps: still glitching since one hour ...
ERROR CODE:
com.audiotool.collab.DisplayableCollabException: com.audiotool.next.bakery.BakeryException: defrac.json.JSONException: error parsing no such item. - mixdown failed - ErrId=91eb1361-a0dd-478f-a210-95965e4940cc
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Dell Inspiron 15 1500 Series
AMD A9-9400 Radeon R5 7th Gen
Windows 10 Home
5 Cores @ 2.4 GHz
Google Chrome Version 70.0.3538.102 (Official Build) (64-bit)
The worklet option made it worse in my case
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Not sure what the issue is but sometimes it won't allow me to save, sometimes I can't publish. I thought it was my wifi but I have a wifi speed of 101 Mb/s so it can't be that.
When working on collabs, if my partners are doing something anywhere and I'm listening at the same time, I disconnect from the server.
I used to be able to run 8 or 9 synths pretty much lag-free but now even 1 Heisenberg glitches.
There's a note at the bottom of my screen sometimes saying I should make sure my screen size is 100% even though it is. Because of this when I move a marker or extend an area i get this weird pattern of colours left at the side and bottom of the screen.
This isn't so much of a glitch but more of a UI issue) The new chat in collaborations annoys me quite a bit because when I go to search for a sample or preset, the size of the the space reserved for samples/presets is greatly reduced. Please give us a way to move it around or close it completely :)
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Those are all the issues I could think of atm so yeh. Hope you understand what I mean and do something about it
When your legs don't work like they used to before
And I can't sweep you off of your feet
Will your mouth still remember the taste of my love
Will your eyes still smile from your cheeks
And darling I will be loving you 'til we're 70
And baby my heart could still fall as hard at 23
And I'm thinking 'bout how people fall in love in mysterious ways
Maybe just the touch of a hand
Oh me I fall in love with you every single day
And I just wanna tell you I am
So honey now
Take me into your loving arms
Kiss me under the light of a thousand stars
Place your head on my beating heart
I'm thinking out loud
Maybe we found love right where we are
When my hair's all but gone and my memory fades
And the crowds don't remember my name
When my hands don't play the strings the same way, mm
I know you will still love me the same
'Cause honey your soul can never grow old, it's evergreen
Baby your smile's forever in my mind and memory
I'm thinking 'bout how people fall in love in mysterious ways
Maybe it's all part of a plan
I'll just keep on making the same mistakes
Hoping that you'll understand
But baby now
Take me into your loving arms
Kiss me under the light of a thousand stars
Place your head on my beating heart
I'm thinking out loud
That maybe we found love right where we are, oh
So baby now
Take me into your loving arms
Kiss me under the light of a thousand stars
Oh darling, place your head on my beating heart
I'm thinking out loud
That maybe we found love right where we are
Oh maybe we found love right where we are
And we found love right where we are
Thanks for your detailed feedback on the subject. We surely will pick up some of your input for the next audiotool release.
I am having issues with trying to open old drafts from years ago and keep seeing 404 error not found. There are multiple drafts that keep doing this.
You might want to file a bug or request help in the appropriate board. This discussion covers performance issues.
Lmao
im not having issues yet but audiotool it self seems to have a stroke whenever i use it anyway -_-
Google Chrome Canary (not sure the version but i did recently update it)
Windows 10
worklet doesnt seem to make much difference but i dont really lag anyway.
1920 x 1080
Intel i7-7700HQ CPU @2.80GHz (4 cores)
Nvidia Geforce GTX1050Ti 8GB (Also 16GB of installed ram)
everything i open really at some point audiotool starts acting weird.
I really just wanna know if my laptop has the power to run audiotool properly Like the speed and power is it enough to run hekken thicc projects? cause so far i havent really tried that out... and how would i test it?
I have no issues but I just wanna chime in and say that Worklet works really well for me, and I wanna thank the devs for all the hard work. I hope you guys get it to work for everyone eventually, one day it just took priority over booster for me.
I have barely any issues even with big projects only using worklet, I have included specs for comparison.
Google Chrome 70.0.3538.110 (Official Build) (64-bit)
Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB 2016
Worklet is enabled and doing it's thing
two monitors with 1920x1080
Intel i7 2600k / NVIDIA GTX 970
Working solo, everything runs fine. If the draft gets a little too big, I just turn on the booster, and then I can keep working. I have no problems there.
Working with someone is okay. Everything runs fine and theres no glitches for me. But there's those rare times that either a guru meditation or that "You found a bug!" error pops up for seemingly no reason. It doesn't happen very often, and I think it happened only once while working solo, that I can remember.
Other than that, I hear no glitches or issues with the audio at all.
Thanks for the feedback. Please do not use Chrome Canary. It is a preview release not intended for daily use. A fews month back, there was a bug in the official Chrome which badly impaled performance of audiotool. That's why we asked to install Canary (the bug was already fixed there), but luckily, these times are over now. So, better uninstall Chrome Canary, unless you know exactly what your're doing. I'm not even sure if Chrome Canary auto-updates itself on windows.
i would give feed back, but i only have a chromebook running this thing. so it is quite obvious that it would lag like hell. i have looked at the first aid for laggy playback in the app, and i will look into those soon. im sure it would be better if i had something like a windows 10 computer running audiotool. but at the moment, im technologically and financially challanged. so is my mother. oof
Every issue I had has been fixed now, the app runs beautifully. Only things that slows everything down are large drafts, but that's to do with my laptop and not the app.
so is there anyway for the next app to be ran on chromebooks lol
i feel ya bro im on a chromebook to lmfao
if there is, i need to know lol
only thing i have issues with is the secondary outputs(1-5) with rasslebock but maybe it's just me
I thought I noticed a performance boost.
Runs fine on my Chromebook lol
its working real smooth, even for a chromebook
idk why but i cant remix one of my tracks
Consider posting on the Support > Help board instead of here.
When I upload my samples they don’t appear in the studio! When I upload my samples they don’t appear in the studio :/
I tried to check if they exist, in my profile I click "Assets" there is the same sample! COOL!!! But when I click on the sample... error 404
HELP ME!!!!!! I can not lay out looking for? Or is there a limit?
My gpu usage peaks at 98% as soon as the app loads and stays peaked unless I min window or close studio
@brad_burger-fajgdjo are you referring to studio.audiotool.com?
Woah that was a jump in time.
idk whats going but can tell me how to make music i am new here