Hi, I am one of the developers.
I've seen a lot of users expressing the want for more transparency or updates on what is happening behind the scenes, so feel free to ask me anything about Audiotool and I'll do my best to answer.
I will not comment on the Andre/Andreas situation as I don't have anything to add and this is already being discussed in other channels.
However I understand there are legitimate concerns being raised by the community, and am happy to try to address any questions as best I can as long as the discussion remains civil.
To clarify, nobody has asked me to do this, and I don't necessarily represent the views or opinions of anyone else who works here. Just thought it might be good to start a bit more dialogue with the community :)
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dunno what question I wanna ask ¯_(ツ)_/¯
When are you guys gonna add simple samplers like soundation, Import a one shot/ sample and open the piano roll with all the octaves and note patterns? with better gliding?
maybe about the sites bugginess but thats it
We are very aware this is one of the most sought after features for the Studio, and is a must-have in any capable DAW.
All I can say is something is in the works, we've already done some experimenting with our new engine. We are focused on the upcoming new studio version for now and I can't promise it will be included at launch but it will be high priority for sure.
will we be getting any design changes or new features for this side of site?
for example changes to the feed, or artist's pages, etc
The short answer to this is yes, however I understand some users might be wondering why something as seemingly basic as a website has been so starved of basic updates and features recently.
The website is built on top of old tech foundations, of which some of the code goes all the way back to the beginning of Audiotool some 15+ years ago. Most web code is not intended to be in use for this long, and certainly it doesn't help when the resources haven't always been there to properly maintain and update it over the years.
So despite the website having been through multiple re-designs, these were actually all retro-fitted into an ageing legacy system. And with each addition to this growing monolith, it becomes increasingly risky and difficult to make meaningful changes. Early last year we had to have the whole team spend a couple of months building scaffolding around the system just to keep it alive as it was regularly going offline.
The other difficult issue is that this tech foundation is central to how the entire platform works, from sample upload, to publishing, to loading up projects in the studio. So in order to have a modern and maintainable website, we also need to break apart and re-build a lot of Audiotool generally (and migrate all of the existing data safely).
We're making some great progress here, and we're re-designing the system while keeping in mind many of the essential features the website has been sorely missing.
So the long answer is: unfortunately we're going to have to ask everyone to keep being patient, and new features will probably not be added to the current website. However we hope to bring you a much better modern experience, to which we can add new features with a regular cadence, in the not-too-distant future.
short answer?
I assume the current plans is to just overhaul backend stuff and UI stuff, but what about the devices in the daw?
Are there any plans to unlock parameters for certain devices like the heisenburg? Modulation for each oscillators are capped at 100%, but i've seen other plugins be able to go above that, as much as 800% what about attack, release times for ADSRs? How about changing the oscillators of the pulv and heisenburger? The pulv's sinewave is the same as the heisenburg's "parabola". And I would much rather have a real pure sinewave for the pulv, the parabola introduces unwanted harmonics. Also the heisenburg's waves are very low detailed, the squarewave and sawtooth are kind of lowpassed, which i don't like. could be nice to make our own waves or something? How about allowing the pulv's LFO to go into the kHz for some FM synth stuff? How about triggering the 303 with MIDI? ;-)
no need to answer everything, just mostly the top question i am interested in. Are you guys working on updating any of the devices?
Hi kurp! Some great audio nerd questions here :)
As part of the studio re-build we are definitely looking at quality-of-life changes for all of the devices. This might mean some streamlining or more consistency across certain common controls (bypass, dry/wet, etc.) as well as updating some obvious jankiness.
At some point we would love to be able to make some device-specific updates to controls and sound, especially given the improved capabilities of the new engine. We have to be more careful here however as this goes into very opinionated and subjective territory, and also we need existing tracks to sound close to how they sounded before when someone opens them in the new studio. We also don't want users to have to choose between 4 or 5 versions of the Pulv for example if we keep updating how it plays/sounds.
I'm sure our team will come up with clever ways to make nice additions while maintaining backwards compatibility, and this is something we'll probably look at post-launch especially if there is demand for it, but for now we're focused on getting the new engine to sound as close as possible to the current version. Sorry I can't give more specific answers to your questions for now!
This is exciting to hear!! :-) i'm glad there wont be 78635 different pulv versions to choose from in the future. Hopefully things will keep being developed
Alright, Thank You for Answering!
Yo, gotta question. Could there be an updated genre system, where if enough ppl vote on a new genre, then it could become a chart? Because alot of ppl (including myself), are coming up with hybrid genres. I'm just wondering if with enough crowd support we could add custom genres with a poll type system. Anyways, another one is the theme of the studio. FL Studio has an almost fully customizable studio theme editor. Do you think yall could add something like that too. And the last one is concerning the more sophisticated end of AT. About the "clans" on Audiotool. Ik there are alot of ppl with a "clan" tag, but there isn't actual joinable clans. I think this would be very helpful for ppl who have similar ideas, and could be in a collective. But if you do consider this, please exclude censoring un-followed or following ppl from joining, as that will create cliques within the clans. But please do include censoring of crude language, and abuse, and DATING, ppl should be able to get reported for dating. All that stuff that common sense takes care of ;) But yeah those are my questions, sorry if its too much rn, I jus gotta big brain (XD, jkjk).
Yeah its sucks when you get rlly used to something and then it changes XD
@jujuu we should hold a community party in the discord for when the updates start launching. While everybody is waiting for the site to come back up we could all be on discord (minus the poor developers who have to watch the system to make sure all goes smoothly... we'll save a plate for y'all!) we could do marathons of audiotool music through youtube/spotify playlists and mock up our own ms-paint renders of what the new audiotool would look like.
I can actually somewhat speak to this! The genre system that we now have was done by a collection of familiar faces on audiotool to try and figure out this question: "What are the main genres of music?" which turns out to almost be an impossible question. So now the question is "what genres matter to audiotool users?" and that's an answer that'll gradually change over time. I love the idea of genre charts being community driven and liquid in a sense! I think it would take a LOT of planning to make a system that couldn't easily be abused or too messy for a new user to understand. However, I don't think it would be impossible!
(I am not a developer or an employee! But I have been a part of this conversation and I know that its on audiotool's radar!)
I'm glad that someone else backs me up. Cuz I came up with a genre I call "bouncetrap" (pluggnb and hoodtrap/jerk mixed), but another person made a edm-jersey club hybrid, that I think if enough support was granted, could be voted into reality.
Hey LV sorry for the delay in getting back to you.
Yes genres are a very tricky one indeed, and it would make much more sense for them to be fluid somehow rather than static. It's something we're thinking a lot about although we don't quite have a final solution yet that we can share. It will definitely be different and hopefully improved with the next version though! Themes are also a great idea and one we might want to add at some point :)
Just a quick shoutout to all of our amazing mods who put a lot of effort into keeping the website an enjoyble and safe place for users. I don't know if they want to be named but please show some love to them if you know who they are!
@naswalt That sounds like a lot of fun, but unfortunately you're on the money, the devs probably won't be able to relax too much for the weeks before and after the update!
Thanks for the reply, I know some of the names of the devs, but not the mods. Thanks again, and yes shout-out to all the great ppl who keep this place afloat.
Prod. LV tbh i agree
JuJuu so I have a question.
Are you guys planning to add color settings? Like, go to preferences, and click theme and for example, if i clicked green, everything would be a grand scheme of green.
This already exists as a patreon feature ;-)
is there an end goal for the studio/site to work towards, or is the plan to come out with intermittent updates indefinitely?
if the former is true, what is that goal? if the latter is true, will the updates be more influenced by user feedback or by current trends on competing platforms?
how-do-i-make-music-on-here?
Hi withdecay, good question!
The plan is to continuously update the studio and site indefinitely.
We want Audiotool to be the best possible music making platform for users of all backgrounds and experience levels so while we will depend on community feedback and ideas to improve things for exisiting users, we might also look outwards sometimes with an aim to make the studio accessible to people who are new to making music, but might find it easier to approach in different ways.
Click on "Studio" at the top of this webpage. You will have to be on a computer or laptop as it is not currently possible to use the studio on mobile.
Here are some video tutorials for getting started: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1p0CcBY6VE&list=PLuZhzj4PboMnEfz2vK5vmolBlqdwh4svm
how do i mix 2 parts of a song together
this post is not really to answer common questions about the app, please see the support page: https://www.audiotool.com/board/support
....bro, kinda unfair tbh
Thx, always nice to have sum support
Technically, if you hook up a mouse to your phone, and as long as your phone is powerful enough, you can.
My only question I have is "how is your day going"?
I know that doesn't sound like a good question but I don't really know what to ask. So sorry about that.