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Alt accounts and favoriting abuse

JackNjelly · started 2024-10-24 00:37 · updated 2024-11-11 18:42

you guys need to stop using your alt accounts to constantly favorite your own or others tracks, you are abusing the charting material and making other artists feel less important, if your using an alt account at least use it for a music archive or another music making account, not some bot account that constantly favorites someones or your tracks to the point where the tracks get taken down, PLEASE think wisely before making an alt and giving it a purpose.

Comments (179)

2024-10-24 00:38 · 2024-10-24

I didn't know this was even a problem. Thanks for pointing it out.

crossroads · reply
2024-10-24 00:40 · 2024-10-24

people with more than 10 alt accounts on 1 IP should be banned outright

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:41 · 2024-10-24

aka reap did that

2024-10-24 00:41 · 2024-10-24

almost happened to me cause I let my anger get the best of me and bc I thought someone botted they shi to get over me (n they repubbed it so) I did it to mines n this huge drama arised but I deleted the likes on it so

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:41 · 2024-10-24

abused the favoriting material for only ONE of my tracks to chart, like bro I don't wanna be THAT popular

anonymous user
2024-10-24 00:42 · 2024-10-24

realsies

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:43 · 2024-10-24

don't tell me ;-;

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:44 · 2024-10-24

literally constantly favorites my by the book track and almost got it taken down

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:44 · 2024-10-24

like all that progress was so good I don't wanna lose it

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 00:45 · 2024-10-24

what

2024-10-24 00:46 · 2024-10-24

he did it to me when he got banned he kept following me :Sob:

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:47 · 2024-10-24

its like he's tryna get popular artists banned

crossroads · reply
2024-10-24 00:47 · 2024-10-24

ip bans should be a thing here

2024-10-24 00:47 · 2024-10-24

real

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 00:48 · 2024-10-24

even though I did it one time.

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:48 · 2024-10-24

you aren't too much of a problem, its kinda like reap was

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 00:49 · 2024-10-24

well I did it with like 4 or 5 sooooo

crossroads · reply
2024-10-24 00:49 · 2024-10-24

I've never done it, which is probably why my stuff has never been on the front page

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:49 · 2024-10-24

he abused it so much he almost got my track taken down

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 00:50 · 2024-10-24

I just have my brother make an acc. and he likes my songs LMAO.

crossroads · reply
2024-10-24 00:50 · 2024-10-24

LMFAO

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:50 · 2024-10-24

at least it ain't an alt

2024-10-24 00:50 · 2024-10-24

bro the mod mentioned my friend bro Ian gone lie I laughed

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 00:50 · 2024-10-24

crap though

2024-10-24 00:51 · 2024-10-24

i got caught red handed lol

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:51 · 2024-10-24

pffff dang

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 00:51 · 2024-10-24

just say you have like 100 family members and you get a free pass.

crossroads · reply
2024-10-24 00:51 · 2024-10-24

:(

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:51 · 2024-10-24

damn, I didn't expect you to do it

jejaye · reply
2024-10-24 00:51 · 2024-10-24

but I don't use it just to spam I make stuff over there too

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 00:52 · 2024-10-24

I didn't either, but still...

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 00:52 · 2024-10-24

I got chewed real good.

anonymous user
2024-10-24 00:52 · 2024-10-24

ik i have an alt but i only have one and i DONT do that shit

2024-10-24 00:52 · 2024-10-24

bro I saw "we know what ur doing" and it said moderator ngl I was like "what the fuck?"

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 00:52 · 2024-10-24

its absolutely not okay to do that

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:53 · 2024-10-24

yea its basically abusing the charting

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 00:53 · 2024-10-24

for me it said "how many siblings do you have?" sooooooo

2024-10-24 00:53 · 2024-10-24

my brother @808este and @bliss were audiotool producers :3

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 00:53 · 2024-10-24

which should really be cracked down on more

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 00:53 · 2024-10-24

I just said 2, cause Jell-o is my bro you know

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 00:54 · 2024-10-24

but I don't do that anymore, I just spam poop loads.

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 00:54 · 2024-10-24

for feedback of course.

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:54 · 2024-10-24

he told me a certain SOMEONE was favoriting my tracks with alts, like over 10 aka reap

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:54 · 2024-10-24

they told me they got rid of ALL the alts

anonymous user
2024-10-24 00:55 · 2024-10-24

I have an alt account if something wrong ever goes down I am never on it tho doing that shi-

2024-10-24 00:55 · 2024-10-24

bro jack I was lwkey kinda mad Abt ur track for a sec so yeah so sorry again

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 00:55 · 2024-10-24

that's why reap was so pip popular for a while there.

2024-10-24 00:56 · 2024-10-24

yes he got banned till 2025 he's gonna come back and do the same shit

anonymous user
2024-10-24 00:56 · 2024-10-24

is it bad if i like stuff on my alt for non chart purposes lol

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 00:57 · 2024-10-24

that's funny dude, I've been getting my butt chewed because of spamming, but I mean I want people to listen to my songs. and when I don't spam I get like 3 people to listen to my song.

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 00:57 · 2024-10-24

my "fans"

2024-10-24 00:58 · 2024-10-24

bro don't spam it blandly u gotta like ask for feedback apologize for posting on they wall

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 00:59 · 2024-10-24

it depends

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:03 · 2024-10-24

Yeah we got mfs tryna get their shii post popular cuz they aren't good enough to get fair views

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:05 · 2024-10-24

"Want forgiveness, get religion" - Bully McGuire

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:05 · 2024-10-24

It was a lot of ppl trust me

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:05 · 2024-10-24

reap caused all this, now he gotta deal with it

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:05 · 2024-10-24

Is reap Wal?

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:06 · 2024-10-24

yes

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:06 · 2024-10-24

XD

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:06 · 2024-10-24

Yuh i figured

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:06 · 2024-10-24

he had SO many alt accounts

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:06 · 2024-10-24

more then 10 at least

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:07 · 2024-10-24

Yeah well, ig AT learned their lesson

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:07 · 2024-10-24

they should limit alt accounts to 3

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:08 · 2024-10-24

it'd be much more manageable

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:08 · 2024-10-24

Circles be fr

How many of your alts are following me

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:08 · 2024-10-24

Aight good

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:09 · 2024-10-24

I'm tired of all the frickin Clawood sister alts

More than likely they're all Coraline

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:09 · 2024-10-24

yea they all are

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:10 · 2024-10-24

yeah im tired of that bullshit

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:10 · 2024-10-24

Yeah she's such a simp

I told her I don't want anything to do with her and she keeps crawling back in 25 different forms

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:10 · 2024-10-24

people need to realize the consequences

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:11 · 2024-10-24

And Katie keeps getting angry and deleting her acc and making a new one all the time

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:11 · 2024-10-24

Yuh if u got BL u can dm me for the details

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:11 · 2024-10-24

thats the thing jack

2024-10-24 01:11 · 2024-10-24

hm.

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:11 · 2024-10-24

they dont

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:12 · 2024-10-24

like lowkey just stop

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:12 · 2024-10-24

Yeah why tf u think we still have car accidents because of phones

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:12 · 2024-10-24

its not that hard

2024-10-24 01:12 · 2024-10-24

man fuck all this drama lets just make music I'm bored

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:12 · 2024-10-24

Fax

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:12 · 2024-10-24

I'm surprised I'm being very smart about this and started a whole debate, and at 13

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:12 · 2024-10-24

yuh

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:13 · 2024-10-24

Nah we all agree with u, no debate here

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:14 · 2024-10-24

yessir

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:14 · 2024-10-24

Except for the blitz but ye

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:14 · 2024-10-24

blitz can argue if he wants to add more fuel to the fire

2024-10-24 01:15 · 2024-10-24

alr ppls stop talking bout drama don't want none of u to get banned low-key

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:15 · 2024-10-24

Reminds me of a similar situation with someone who likes fish....🤔🤔

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:15 · 2024-10-24

yuh lets stoppp

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:15 · 2024-10-24

killer fish

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-24 01:16 · 2024-10-24

Fax I'm too tired to argue abt these randos

DarkMater · reply
2024-10-24 01:18 · 2024-10-24

Yeah, it could probably ruin the servers and algorithm

2024-10-24 01:20 · 2024-10-24

Im here for music but no one wants to teach me

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:20 · 2024-10-24

I can teach ya

Coraline · reply
2024-10-24 01:21 · 2024-10-24

My brother did he teach me but he never does

2024-10-24 01:21 · 2024-10-24

jack not trying to be mean if you keep spaming this link you're going to get bot banned

DarkMater · reply
2024-10-24 01:22 · 2024-10-24

cause of how fast and how many people you're sending this link to

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:23 · 2024-10-24

I mean this ain't the same thing like discord

Coraline · reply
2024-10-24 01:25 · 2024-10-24

I love to learn from u tho

XyPhr · reply
2024-10-24 01:32 · 2024-10-24

I guess that means that I'd have to stop pretending like my alt is a completely different person then.
If I want ofc.

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:34 · 2024-10-24

well no, that just means you don't make so much and abuse the like system

XyPhr · reply
2024-10-24 01:36 · 2024-10-24

Define "abuse the like system" for me Jack
(I'm just curious to know what you think lol)

2024-10-24 01:39 · 2024-10-24

Hey Jack I'm so sorry that I make so many accounts but it's because I keep getting unlocked for no reason I don't know why they keep getting locked but I do like because music because it's amazing music

crossroads · reply
2024-10-24 01:39 · 2024-10-24

artificially inflate the amount of likes your music has
in any way, shape or form

2024-10-24 01:40 · 2024-10-24

this got so popular in such a little amount of time

crossroads · reply
2024-10-24 01:40 · 2024-10-24

pretending your alt isn't you is technically catfishing btw

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:40 · 2024-10-24

like use so many alt accounts to like one of your own songs or someone elses that the mods get involved

crossroads · reply
2024-10-24 01:41 · 2024-10-24

nah even if the mods are uninvolved, it should NOT be allowed by the users themselves

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:41 · 2024-10-24

I think cuz I actually said something about it

Coraline · reply
2024-10-24 01:42 · 2024-10-24

All leave audiottool for good if that what neeeds to happen

crossroads · reply
2024-10-24 01:42 · 2024-10-24

People CHOOSE to come to this site, so if they're going to stay, they need to be respectful. Artificially boosting your plays/likes/shares is an immoral practice. It's also outlawed by most major streaming services.

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:42 · 2024-10-24

you don't need to leave

XyPhr · reply
2024-10-24 01:42 · 2024-10-24

mm
good point.

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 01:43 · 2024-10-24

all I'm saying is that don make so many alt accounts to abuse the like system and charting system

2024-10-24 02:15 · 2024-10-24

Hey everyone,

I want to take responsibility for something I did that wasn’t fair. I used four alt accounts to like my own songs that I wanted to be heard, and I was rightfully called out. I’m truly sorry for this.

I did it because I wanted to be heard, but I realize now that it was the wrong approach. Everyone deserves a fair chance to be heard, and my actions were unfair to others.

I’ve been reflecting on this, and I don’t want to hide from my mistakes. Hiding won’t make me a better person, and I want to do better, for myself and for the community. I’ve deleted all those bot accounts and am committed to being authentic moving forward.

I’m not perfect, and I make mistakes, but I’m learning from this. Thank you for your understanding, and I will work hard to rebuild trust.

Again, I’m sorry, and I’ll do better from here on out.

Coraline · reply
2024-10-24 02:19 · 2024-10-24

Same here

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 02:22 · 2024-10-24

same here dude, your not the only one.

2024-10-24 02:24 · 2024-10-24

wow, hey Noah, just curious, should spamming for feedback be allowed?

anonymous user
2024-10-24 03:13 · 2024-10-24

Does anyone wanna do a beat battle?

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 03:13 · 2024-10-24

hey circles, you up for a Collab?

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 03:13 · 2024-10-24

I've got sum shiz going.

2024-10-24 03:14 · 2024-10-24

I need my hiatus out of ideas rn sorry but if u inv me I'll see what I can do?

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 03:14 · 2024-10-24

chat!!

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 03:16 · 2024-10-24

dude I cant add you for sum reason. it wont find you.

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 03:16 · 2024-10-24

hold up a min.

Ben Erb · reply
2024-10-24 03:16 · 2024-10-24

ur on

2024-10-24 04:29 · 2024-10-24

i am an alt but i aint gonna be faving any thing or posting shit besides texts so im safe

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 11:22 · 2024-10-24

depends on how much you spam, like probably 5 times on someones wall is enough

2024-10-24 11:23 · 2024-10-24

charting isn't a big enough deal to warrant this behavior. However the best way to combat this is through something that would take too much effort for a single user to replicate: interact with other user's tracks in a meaningful way! Discussions, advice, questions and even disagreements (so long as they're not leaning into drama, holy crap) are all what the comment sections on tracks are made for! Just like everything that makes a person a good hang in professional music, it all comes down to how you care for your community.
the way I try to fight this is to make sure I catch up on my "latest from followees" tab in music. I'm not as active as I'd like to be, but when I'm on I try to spend the time well.

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 11:25 · 2024-10-24

also your using your alt account to make music aswell, that's fine with me, its not a problem

2024-10-24 14:06 · 2024-10-24

This is so true!!

2024-10-24 17:40 · 2024-10-24

I don't want bot favorites on my songs. I need to see my genuine stats so I can better understand what my own fans and other people enjoy listening to. If one song is significantly more popular than another, I take notes on what I did differently. I look for similarities between popular songs.
Bot spamming favorites is completely destructive of this method of research.
While I have a few alts, they are experimental and used to test different genres and styles.
If anyone happens to enjoy a song that I made, I would rather you not favorite it at all rather than favorite it multiple times across different accounts.
Thank you for bringing this to more people's attention Noah.

2024-10-24 18:25 · 2024-10-24

very true!

JackNjelly · reply
2024-10-24 18:26 · 2024-10-24

yw

2024-10-27 02:53 · 2024-10-27

I have done this a few times. But only with one account and because something I genuinely thought was great and needed more attention (it was 1 or 2 favs). I've also faved tracks I think are great from other artists multiple times. I do agree, but I regret nothing lol.

anonymous user · reply
2024-10-30 16:20 · 2024-10-30

5 times is enough to piss me off

2024-10-31 15:26 · 2024-10-31

i agree with this, there is simply no point in this as you aren't getting geniune likes on your stuff plus unlike other platforms (cough cough Twitter *cough cough), your likes are public.

2024-11-01 18:19 · 2024-11-01

I do agree with @b3rmvd4 I might be newer but I know from friends that told me and thank you @JackNjelly for being my first follower I really appreciate it

JackNjelly · reply
2024-11-11 18:42 · 2024-11-11

yw mate